Frank Turek Interviews Michael Heiser

Link to original full interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifNdJPgJATA&t=3005s (May 14, 2020) Frank Turek conducted an interview on May 14, 2020, focusing on the Bible’s supernatural worldview and the presence of other gods besides Yahweh, interpreted often as polytheism. He spoke with Dr. Michael Heiser, a scholar with a PhD in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages, known for his influential book The Unseen Realm which challenges traditional evangelical perspectives by unveiling the biblical “unseen realm” of divine beings. Heiser explained that the Bible depicts a divine council consisting of multiple “Elohim” or gods, but Yahweh alone is the supreme, unique God. This council, referenced in passages like Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32, reveals a complex supernatural world with beings assigned by God as rulers over the nations, some of whom rebel and corrupt humanity’s original relationship with God. Heiser highlighted that humanity was created to coexist with these heavenly hosts and reflect God’s image, making biblical stories of the fall, Genesis 6’s "sons of God," and Babel part of a threefold cosmic rebellion explaining evil, death, and idolatry. The narrative extends to New Testament events like Pentecost, which Heiser ties to the reversal of Babel’s division by reuniting the nations under God’s reign through the gospel. Heiser also discussed why demons suddenly appear in the New Testament, tying it to Jewish intertestamental traditions and Psalm 91’s exorcistic language, showing that Jesus’ casting out demons confirmed his messianic role. Crucially, Heiser distinguishes “Elohim” as a broad label for all spiritual beings, including gods of nations, human spirits, and angels, but only Yahweh is ontologically unique, opposing interpretations like Mormonism which conflate all Elohim as equal gods. This interview reveals how Heiser’s scholarship reinterprets biblical texts to recover a layered, supernatural biblical worldview often glossed over or misunderstood in traditional evangelical teaching. The discussion covers theology, scripture interpretation, and the cosmic nature of good and evil as seen through the Bible’s supernatural lens. #unseenrealm #frankturek #michaelheiser #psalm82 #divinecouncil #biblicaltheology #elohim #divinecouncil #genesis6 #towerofbabel #biblestudy #christianworldview #spiritualwarfare #yahweh #nephilim