Jay introduces 2 New Findings proving Muhammad never Existed!
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July 10, 2025
In September of 2023 Jay was invited to Calvary Chapel Chino Hills (CCCH) by Jack Hibbs, the senior pastor, to give a 1-hour overview concerning the historical problems with Mecca, Muhammad and the Qur’an, which has now been watched by over 2.6 million people.
See it Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DclW84HkM&t=1772s
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5c-d1pNnvs&t=3384s
Because of its popularity Jack asked Jay to return in December of 2023 to do a much slower overview (4 hours this time), in two sessions, unpacking these three areas, including the place (Mecca), the man (Muhammad), and the book (Qur’an), which has now been watched by over 700,000 people.
See the first talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKIdN0qxOyw&t=2787s
See the second talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-3kN2JQhLM&t=2225s
On July 6 of this year (2025) Jack asked Jay to return once again, this time to introduce the two new areas of research which his team has found, headed up by Dr Pat Andrews, and including Mel (from the ‘Islamic Origins’ channel).
This new research includes who possibly the “Muhammad” everyone is looking for in the 7th century may really be, and also looks at just how late the earliest extent manuscripts for all the traditions which speak about him really are.
But instead of just introducing these 2 new areas of research, Dr Smith decided to intersperse them in a response to two videos uploaded by Raymond Ibrahim on his YouTube channel on April 9 and 11 of this year, where he accused Jay of forwarding the "Weakest Polemic against Islam", attempting to disprove Jay in 10 areas.
See his first video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEH3ma_DCg&t=25s
See his second video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZkUi7f-rhY&t=7s
In this July 6 meeting at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, Jay responded to all 10 of those challenges within a 2 hour period, while simultaneously introducing the 2 newest areas of research.
So, sit back and enjoy this response to Raymond Ibrahim's 10 attacks against Jay, and then respond in the comments below concerning who you think won this "debate".
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