Calvinists Keep Confusing These Two Things
Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers
teaching
July 6, 2026
Most debates about Calvinism go in circles because they begin with the wrong assumption.
In this episode, Leighton Flowers explains why the debate changes once you separate man's responsibility to respond from God's choice to save. Using his memorable "two pies" illustration, he argues that many Calvinist arguments conflate two completely different questions.
Topics covered:
Why many people reject Calvinism
The "Two Pies" illustration
Does faith contribute to salvation?
God's choice vs. man's response
The Prodigal Son and salvation
Why persuasion still matters in evangelism
Common logical fallacies in Calvinist arguments
If you've wrestled with Calvinism, Provisionism, Arminianism, or the doctrine of salvation, this discussion offers a fresh framework for understanding the debate.
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Full video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayJv3ti8K58
Timestamps:
0:00–0:43 — The Calvinist Answer Undermines Itself
0:43–1:13 — God Ordained This Broadcast?
1:13–1:58 — "I Guess I'm a Calvinist Then..."
1:58–3:05 — Calvinism's Confusing Conflation Explained
3:05–4:27 — The Two-Pie Illustration Changes Everything
4:27–6:13 — Untangling Calvinism's Fishing-Line Theology
6:13–7:35 — Did We Choose Christ, or Did Christ Choose Us?
7:45–8:36 — Persuasion Isn't Salvation
8:36–9:04 — The Bible Commands Persuasion
9:04–9:22 — The Root of the Calvinist Conflation
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