What does the Bible ACTUALLY say about Women in Ministry? (with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes)

Dr. Carmen Joy Imes returns to the Dojo!! 00:00:00 - Welcome to the Dojo! 00:02:59 - Carmen’s new book, Exodus commentary, HUNDREDS of students, and crowdsourcing on YouTube! 00:05:52 - Carmen’s tips SBL’s upcoming Annual Meeting! 00:09:45 - A basic summary of the controversy 00:12:49 - Why this is *NOT* a sociopolitical or ‘rights’ issue 00:15:04 - The problem with the terms “Complementarian” and “Egalitarian” to begin with 00:17:45 - Where SHOULD we start when discussing the issue 00:18:39 - Genesis 1, the “Image of God”, and “ruling over” Creation 00:21:18 - When does hierarchy appear in the text? What is a ‘helper’? 00:24:41 - Is Genesis 3:16 *punishment* or *prescription* & The ESV controversy 00:27:6 - Adam “naming” Eve as a sign of hierarchy? 00:28:01 - Does Scripture endorse the Patriarchal culture of the Bible? 00:35:49 - A closer look at Miriam and Hulda 00:38:27 - Attention: Accordance tech support! 00:39:57 - Women in Paul’s letters 00:42:58 - Was Junia an Apostle or just known by the Apostles? 00:46:28 - Women *DID* lead & teach in the Bible - Deborah 00:48:50 - Jesus’ treatment of women 00:50:25 - But Jesus’ Disciples were all men! 00:51:46 - Thoughtful Complementarians and “The Big Two” passages 00:53:46 - 1Timothy 2: “I do not permit a woman to teach…” 00:58:36 - Discomfort is *NOT* a reason to not take a passge "at face value” 01:00:18 - What JM wants viewers to hear very clearly! 01:01:20 - How to translate ‘authentein’ and ‘hesuchia’ in 1Tim 2:12 01:05:14 - The Artemis Cult and protection through childbirth 01:10:42 - Eve was deceived, not Adam? 01:14:51 - Carmen’s background as a Complemenarian 01:17:44 - 1Corinthians 14: “Women should remain silent…as the law says” 01:18:31 - NIV 1984 vs. NIV 2011 01:19:20 - How does Carmen approach this passage? 01:22:42 - Is 1Cor.14:34-35 a later scribal addition? 01:24:36 - Should ‘nomos’ be translated as “law” or “custom”/“principle” in 1Cor.14:34? 01:26:19 - *NO* Complementarian takes the text “at face value” 01:28:58 - Thoughtful Complementarian objections regarding Elder qualifications 01:32:13 - “a husband of one wife”? 01:38:55 - Why we genuinely appreciate thoughtful Complementarians 01:40:57 - Does the rejection of Complementarianism equate to theological Liberalism and a rejection of Inspiration/Inerrancy? 01:44:06 - What about gender roles in marriage? 01:54:13 - What books should people read if they want to know more? 02:00:32 - How can we all exhibit Christian unity despite their genuine (and important!) disagreements? 02:08:28 - What DiscipleDojo hopes to accomplish with this discussion! ------- Follow Carmen on Twitter: @carmenjoyimes Carmen's blog: http://www.carmenjoyimes.blogspot.com https://www.ivpress.com/carmen-joy-imes Carmen's Amazon author page: https://www.amazon.com/Carmen-Joy-Imes/e/B07BNPY56Q Pre-order Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters at https://www.amazon.com/Being-Gods-Image-Creation-Matters-ebook/dp/B0BLD43TVC/ Other Resources on Women in ministry from both perspectives: Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary debate: Can Women Lead Men? - https://youtu.be/FzR2cndOSq0 Complementarian books: Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood - https://tinyurl.com/mr4cc539 Women and Men in Ministry: A Complementary Perspective - https://tinyurl.com/m78fc77e Books with both views presented: 40 Questions about Women in Ministry - https://tinyurl.com/5b6busx6 Two Views on Women in Ministry - https://tinyurl.com/ywzju9rx Egalitarian books: Discovering Biblical Equality * 3rd edition - https://tinyurl.com/2kbwmrap * 2nd edition - https://tinyurl.com/7kf3t75f Paul and Gender - https://tinyurl.com/mrxfbsza Women in the Ministry of Jesus - - https://tinyurl.com/yck77zef Paul, Women & Wives - https://tinyurl.com/4729axj4 Is God a Misogynist? - https://tinyurl.com/yfhmes3r Women and the Gender of God - https://tinyurl.com/ms9f623f * Carmen’s blog post on Westfall - https://carmenjoyimes.blogspot.com/2022/09/review-of-cynthia-long-westfall-paul.html  For a fuller discussion on Patriarchy in the world of Scripture, see our Dojo Discussion with Carolyn Custis James at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g910js4V-U DiscipleDojo shirts, hats, and gifts are available at: https://www.zazzle.com/DiscipleDojo ------ Go deeper at www.discipledojo.org   Subscribe to the Disciple Dojo podcast for more in-depth teaching and discussions:  SoundCloud - https://soundcloud.com/discipledojo   Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/26BDZz70HmnT5eoD9BEKQ7   iTunes - https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/disciple-dojo/id1002934837 Stitcher - http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=181458&refid=stpr   Amazon - https://tinyurl.com/uz8dbfet   Disciple Dojo is a 501c3 Nonprofit organization. As such we rely on donor support to make this teaching available freely online. Please consider supporting this ministry if you benefit from the videos or podcast at http://www.discipledojo.org/donate