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Joe finds a Jewish 'Ma'amad', who's not a man but a group?

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apologetics

November 8, 2020
In this Video, Joe from 'WikiNoah' talks about the judaizer's 'Ma'amad'. If you would like to see and hear more about Joe, you can go to his WikiNoah YouTube site here: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwHmaIx7u2VvZRHNXViafQQ/featured) In Hebrew the word Mahamad means treasure or delight. The word Ma'amad in Hebrew means an office or group, or a governing body in Judaism. Mu'awiya, the Caliph from 661 at first had crosses on his coins (possibly because he was a client of the Byzantines?), but then became very critical of Jesus (referring to him as "a dead god"), suggesting that he as an Umayyad hated the Gnostic Jesus, and thus moved towards what later became the Islamic view of Ma'amad (but as an office). The Umayyad's still needed a person to "fit the bill", thus they chose Ilyas ibn Qabisha. They also needed to distance themselves from the Jews and others at that time, so they were perceived by the others as the "New Jews". This included John of Damascus, who in the early 8th century (up to 749 AD), who perceived this new Arab group (the Umayyads), with their reference to 'Ma'amad' as the antiChrist (i.e. the beast with 7 heads found in the book of Revelation). He, thus assumed that they were misleading the Gnostic Christians of that time, though controlled by this group referred to as 'Ma'amad'. This Umayyad 'Ma'amad' was considered a specific governing Jewish Arab body, which no longer had any need for Jews any more. The later Abbasids (who come to power in 749 AD) took some of the Umayyad's ideas and then created the Islam we now know today, not really caring whether it was truly historically accurate or not. Mel's Conclusion: Ilyas instigated the Arabs moving into Byzantine and Persian areas. Later the Qur'an was written, within the context of the academic surroundings of Kufa and Hira (Iraq), where the Mandaics and Gnostic Christians lived and were in discussion with them. © Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, 2020 (41,550) (Music: "small adventure", by Rafael Krux, from filmmusic-io - License CC BY)

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