Can Protestants and Catholics Agree on Penal Substitutionary Atonement? (Dialogue With Erick Ybarra)

Gavin Ortlund and Erick Ybarra discuss and examine Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA) in light of Scripture and Church tradition. Erick’s new book: He Bore our Punishment: Discovering Penal Substitution in the Church Fathers and Beyond: https://www.amazon.com/Bore-our-Punishment-Discovering-Substitution/dp/B0GT918JN4/truthunitesbo-20 Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville. SUPPORT: Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunites FOLLOW: Website: https://truthunites.org/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/ X: https://x.com/gavinortlund Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/ MY ACADEMIC WORK: https://truthunites.org/mypublications/ PODCAST: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/truth-unites DISCORD SERVER ON PROTESTANTISM Striving Side By Side: https://discord.gg/MdTt6d5PVs CHECK OUT SOME BOOKS: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Christianity-Makes-Sense-Mysteries/dp/0310182204/truthunitesbo-20 https://www.amazon.com/What-Means-Be-Protestant-Always-Reforming/dp/B0CNFFP6LK/truthunitesbo-20 https://www.amazon.com/Makes-Sense-World-That-Doesnt/dp/1540964094/truthunitesbo-20 https://www.amazon.com/Theological-Retrieval-Evangelicals-Need-Future/dp/1433565269/truthunitesbo-20 https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Right-Hills-Die-Theological/dp/1433567423/truthunitesbo-20 https://www.amazon.com/Retrieving-Augustines-Doctrine-Creation-Controversy/dp/0830853243/truthunitesbo-20 00:00:00 - Coming Up 00:00:55 - Introduction 00:03:06 - Defining PSA 00:08:05 - Caricatures In PSA 00:18:53 - Why PSA Is Important 00:28:41 - What Makes PSA Unpopular? 00:35:40 - Christus Victor 00:46:07 - Being Terrified of God 00:54:13 - PSA In the Church Fathers 01:03:30 - Jesus’s Whole Life as Salvific 01:08:54 - PSA and Catholicism 01:11:38 - The State of Online Discourse 01:16:54 - Final Remarks