How to Have FAITH when it HURTS ๐ญ (Dealing with Chronic Pain as a Believer) - with Jon Utley
Dan Bergman
apologetics
November 21, 2025
In this episode, we are joined by my good friend and pastor, Jon Utley, This is the second time Jon has been my guest on the podcast. Jon gives us an update to his situation and shares lessons he's learned as he's dealt both with chronic illness, and pain.
My First Episode with Jon: https://youtu.be/vhxeMJ8gD1Q
Chapters:
00:00 Intro / Update from Jon
07:53 Lessons Learned in Suffering
21:31 Practical Help with Physical, Emotional, and Spiritual Issues
35:52 A Biblical Definition of Patience
41:23 Lessons from Job
50:58 How to Help Someone Else who is Suffering
1:03:50 God's Closeness in the Midst of Suffering
1:09:23 How to Find Salvation in Jesus
1:16:46 Closing
๐ Links:
๐๏ธ Bible Study Podcast: https://New2Jesus.com/podcast
๐ฑ Website for New Believers: https://New2Jesus.com
๐ Merch: https://danielbergman99.printify.me/products
โก๏ธ My Hebrew Course: https://biblicalhebrewacademy.com
Scripture
JonahJonah 7Jonah 7:53JobJob 50Job 50:58
Topics
healthchronic pain












